Upcoming Arena 2v2 Bracket Changes

WoRBot · 07-03-2009, 06:48 PM

News on changes to the 2v2 Arena bracket in patch 3.2.Read More

komorie · 07-03-2009, 07:36 PM

good change thank you blizzard though gladiator will get alot harder now i think they should maybe still allow #1 gladiator title for 2v2 so it leaves a little bit of a challenge

Jaymz · 07-03-2009, 07:37 PM

Why don't they include a time time penalty in arena? Something like

- After 5 minutes of combat, healers are losing 20% of their max. mana every minute (similar to Reliqary of Souls from BT). Don't know how about other mana classes like mages/locks but this would sort out the long fights.

Forcing people into "broken" Arena brackets isn't a good solution. What will happen, if a combo of 3x DK and 2x Paladin becomes the "ultimate faceroll" combo in 5v5? How fast will they react? Will it last the whole season? No thanks :P

Calamario · 07-03-2009, 07:37 PM

Registered just so I could say:

F U Blizzard, thanks for ruining casual arena and FORCING me to find a reliable person for a 3v3 that has time to play, happens to fit optimal class setup X and star constellation Y. F U

Flayne · 07-03-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Calamario

Registered just so I could say:

F U Blizzard, thanks for ruining casual arena and FORCING me to find a reliable person for a 3v3 that has time to play, happens to fit optimal class setup X and star constellation Y. F U

You're complaining they gave you access to 4 of 5 current season pieces back? Complaints would be more appropriate when they originally announced the exclusion of 2v2s not when they decided to be more lenient about it.

Cappifoo · 07-03-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Calamario

Registered just so I could say:

F U Blizzard, thanks for ruining casual arena and FORCING me to find a reliable person for a 3v3 that has time to play, happens to fit optimal class setup X and star constellation Y. F U

Couldn't have been said any better.

I don't feel the new resil changes will stop 3's from being a gibb fest. And 5's will always have this mentality. 5's is reasonably unplayable because, seriously all it is, is having 3-4 dps, focus one person, and it is IMPOSSIBLE to keep someone up. With the combinations of each class, it is also nearly impossible to do the things required to stay alive like you would have to in 2's or 3's with the amount of cc, ms, and dmg flying around.

I can safely say, I will never play 5's. I can assure you, most people have this feeling. And now it SUCKS that im gonna get pigeon holed into 3's. Didn't blizz say something about not wanting to pigeonhole people into certan class specs.....hmm. They finally make a change to help out non-casuals, and it's the part of arena most people are interested, casuals or not.

Remm · 07-03-2009, 08:57 PM

I think I must be missing something... why are you saying that you have to do 3v3 now when the blue post was all about making 2v2 more attractive than it was? Isn't it that you had to do 3v3 before and now you can get gear through 2v2?

Ryanb · 07-03-2009, 08:58 PM

I've been saying for years that they should remove 2v2 and replace it with 4v4. It's well known that 3v3 and 5v5 offer far more variety in compositions.

Blizzard has just done a really good job of ruining arena - it's only gotten worse every season since Season 3.

Geschan · 07-03-2009, 09:23 PM

This change sucks.

On the other hand, if blizz stops designing this game aroung 2v2 arena.. ill be a happy panda!

Cappifoo · 07-03-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Remm

I think I must be missing something... why are you saying that you have to do 3v3 now when the blue post was all about making 2v2 more attractive than it was? Isn't it that you had to do 3v3 before and now you can get gear through 2v2?

No shoulders, no weapons, no gladiator.

The last 2 are kinda what you are aiming for while doing arena. So unless I get gladiator this season for 2's, im getting pigeonholed into 3's.

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Originally Posted by Ryanb

I've been saying for years that they should remove 2v2 and replace it with 4v4. It's well known that 3v3 and 5v5 offer far more variety in compositions.

Blizzard has just done a really good job of ruining arena - it's only gotten worse every season since Season 3.

hmmm.....

3's = rmp, cleave

5's = any 4 dps and a druid to stealth/cyclone while the 4 dps blow the shit out of 1 person

Soooo many comps to choose from

Kody · 07-03-2009, 09:41 PM

It's an interesting change. I'd have to say it's the middle ground between what they originally intended to do and what players would like. 2v2 is the hardest to balance properly, so it's no surprise that many use it as a means for gearing up quicker than other brackets simply due to the power of some compositions.

Cappifoo · 07-03-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kody

It's an interesting change. I'd have to say it's the middle ground between what they originally intended to do and what players would like. 2v2 is the hardest to balance properly, so it's no surprise that many use it as a means for gearing up quicker than other brackets simply due to the power of some compositions.

Yah, it definetly is the middle ground. But I think the change, in the way they are doing it, is bad in general. There should be a higher 2's rating requirement for gear or something. Not just saying "you can't get this if you only play 2's"

Its completly cutting out part of a game because of "balancing issues".

Why not take out warsong because druids can carry flags in travel form?

I think it is just too drastic for people who generally, only play 2's because it's difficult to be on enough to make sure you're on at the same time as 2 others or even 4 other people.

And when people say there are more comps or choices to play in 3's, you have never been too far into the ratings, because top teams tend to not differ much.

Sure, at 1300 rating, I bet you will even find some 3 boomkin teams, or triple prot pally teams, but once you get up towards/past 2k, there isnt much difference

Kody · 07-03-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cappifoo

Yah, it definetly is the middle ground. But I think the change, in the way they are doing it, is bad in general. There should be a higher 2's rating requirement for gear or something. Not just saying "you can't get this if you only play 2's"

Not a bad idea, assuming it wouldn't be too difficult technically. Maybe 10-15% higher rating required if you try to buy with a 2v2 rating?

zakayron · 07-03-2009, 10:45 PM

they really should just get rid of 2s altogether because they will never be balanced

Chrono · 07-03-2009, 11:57 PM

Many do like to play 2v2 so that is not likely to happenn ;< I know it was basicly their first idea but many do like 2v2